Another situation

[Greg F]

I included the picture.  Commander’s defensive player is touching the QB, but he is fully engaged by the blocker.

Thoughts?

 

 

[Carl]

If you’re playing any touch tackle I would say the qb is tackled regardless of the blocker engagement 

[Terry43]

5 hours ago, Greg F said:

Thoughts?

QBs in the NFL, CFL, and College frequently throw the pass just as they are being hit. So, I'd give the QB a chance to throw the ball to an open receiver. 😃👍

☹️ No open receivers then...

... If you play touch-tackling then the QB is sacked. 😵‍💫

... If you play Stop Forward Progress Tackling then the QB is sacked because he's on a stationary base and is no longer moving forward. 😵‍💫

Enjoy the Journey   T43   ⚡🏈♾️

 

Is #24's base on backwards and #24 is running forward? 🤔

 

 

[zak99b5]

I'd agree with Carl.  Sack.  Other O player tried blocking the defender, but failed.

[Curt]

I too agree with Carl as I play any touch tackle. QB is down, sorry.  😞

[Greg F]

22 hours ago, Carl said:

If you’re playing any touch tackle I would say the qb is tackled regardless of the blocker engagement 

I play a slightly modified touch tackle.  If a RB is running through the line and is only touched on the sides by defensive players who are fully engaged (entire length of front of bases touching), the RB continues the run.  Also, I continue a run if a defensive player downfield is blocked, and the runner hits the the back 1/3 of the base from the side.  (Not from behind)  

Only think I don’t like in this play is that footprint of player is increased by the freeze frame, and the defensive players just glances it.  But, I made the decision to use the frame.  I’m calling it a sack.  

I love getting everyone’s opinion.   😊

[zak99b5]

Re: the freeze frame--

Makes total sense to me to count that as part of the QB's base.  It's extra equipment that gives a benefit, but there's also the drawback of a bigger footprint.  Seems to work out.

Your other option (what we do) is to use a TTC base with the dial set at 90* for the QB to spin (basically) in place.   Or set it to an arc, put it on backward, and have the QB roll out.

[Coach Shawn]

15 hours ago, Greg F said:

Only think I don’t like in this play is that footprint of player is increased by the freeze frame, and the defensive players just glances it.  But, I made the decision to use the frame.  I’m calling it a sack.  

We use felt under the base to create a standstill player.  Our rule is that the felt is part of the base.  So if it sticks out and is touched it is equal to touching the base.

[zak99b5]

1 hour ago, Coach Shawn said:

We use felt under the base to create a standstill player.  Our rule is that the felt is part of the base.  So if it sticks out and is touched it is equal to touching the base.

I'd be breaking out the scissors lol.

[Coach Shawn]

21 hours ago, zak99b5 said:

I'd be breaking out the scissors lol.

Yes,  we trim them as small as possible, however, we have a clock running for setting up your formation so in the rush to beat the clock we get a little sloppy with the placement of the felt pad.

 

[Long island EFL]

On 10/3/2023 at 5:02 PM, Greg F said:

I included the picture.  Commander’s defensive player is touching the QB, but he is fully engaged by the blocker.

Thoughts?

 

 

TACKLED!

[Bob Davis]

By my rules the QB is sacked. I changed my rules a few seasons ago where if the bases are touching side to side the ball carrier is not tackled. (Thanks to the coach on this forum that suggested that!) But any other contact and the offensive player is considered tackled. 

[RickLM30]

Yup, looks like a sack to me.  I play any part of a defender's base touching the ball carrier is a tackle regardless of whether they are engaged by a blocker.