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  1. 17 hours ago, Long island EFL said:

    Just Some Thoughts: Hall of Fame: Dare to be Different, Do our Homework, Be Fair, Be Accurate, Have an Established and Strict Criteria by a Committee. That's what makes a HOF special. A Hall of Fame, monument should honor electric football citizens who have achieved distinction, fame or innovation that changed the game to the next stage. The HOF Member should be in good standing in the community through local records of their distinction. In other words, organizational references standing at the summit in our hobby. Using a Who's Who of electric football is a solid place to start to qualify a HOF. Some people on here would make awesome HOF Committee Members. Daryl, Terry, the moderators, capanther ... There is a nice trustworthy unbiased list.

    Very GOOD!!! My thoughts almost exactly!!

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  2. 11 hours ago, Daryl Collins said:

    The Ice Bowl. Packers/Cowboys. Dandy Don Meredith was 2 plays in two games vs the Packers from being in the HoF as a quarterback supreme! He’s always gong to be my favorite Cowboy quarterback. Tough as nails, that one.

    Journey On!

    Yes, many people forget that the 1966 Cowboys and the 1967 Cowboys had the opportunity to be the teams to represent the NFL in the first two Super Bowls. But their loses to the Packers just further solidifies the notion that the 1960 - 1967 Packers are considered to be the most dominant team in professional football during that decade and why the Super Bowl Trophy is now called the Lombardi Trophy. Of course, the Cowboys became the most dominant team in the NFC during the decade of 1970 - 1979, making the playoffs 9 times, appearing in the NFC Championship Game 7 times, winning 5 of those and the right to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl 5 times, and winning Super Bowls VI and XI. I did play a series of "What If" Super Bowls with the teams of the AFL and NFL championship game participants of the first 4 AFL - NFL Super Bowls. And I personally consider Super Bowl V to be an NFL vs NFL Super Bowl since the Baltimore Colts was one of the teams that moved to the AFC in 1970 after the merger was completed.     

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  3. American football already has a worldwide audience. There are already numerous American football style professional leagues around the globe.  The NFL already broadcasts games to many other countries and as they continue to play regular season games in some of these places it will only grow more popular. 

    Here is a list on Wikipedia of current and past American and Canadian football leagues around the globe. 

    List of American and Canadian football leagues - Wikipedia

    The Museum website (nefgm.org) since its inception in 2020 has gotten multiple views from people in 59 countries and at least 1 view from people in 17 other countries. Of course, the most being from the US (72,739) and Canada (876) followed by the UK (310) and then China (268). Of course, I don't know how that compares to other similar websites. Table Hockey is the only other tabletop sports game that comes close to electric football has been around longer than electric football - since 1933 compared to 1949 for electric football.  

    But do a search for "table hockey history museum" and 1,510,000 results come up and you will find some very interesting reading but no references to an actual hockey game museum and then do one for "electric football history museum" and 2,430,000 results come up with of course many references to the National Electric Football Game Museum.   

    By the way I have thought about combining electric football, table hockey, electric baseball and electric basketball into one ginormous tabletop sports games museum since Tudor produced a lot of hockey games as well as baseball and basketball and so did the other manufacturers - Gotham, Coleco and Munro. but none of the others have had the success that electric football has had or are even still being made. BUT FIRST THINGS FIRST...  

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  4. Awesome!! I will say this about what you guys have created, what works for you and what makes this game and hobby more fun and exciting for you. and that is really all that matters in the long run. As I tell most everyone and what has become my mantra, "Just have fun and play the game!!"  

    There has been much talk and discussion before of turning electric football into a professional sport with major competitions and tournaments and major corporate sponsors, that could be aired on ESPN or some other cable /satellite sports network much of like what has been done with MADDEN Video Game Football and several other things that started out as nothing more than just games and recreational activities. Cornhole and Foosball are two that immediately come to mind. With even more streaming and pay per view services that are available today, there is an even greater possibility of making this a possibility. I have always said that electric football would make a great reality TV Show, if produced and marketed correctly. In the past and even still we have some very unique characters and personalities, that could definitely become "Stars" and bring even more popularity to the game. 

    What is lacking is that one nationally and internationally recognized organization, that can set the universal standards for game play and format for league and tournament competitions that a large enough number of "players and coaches" will accept. The Miniature Football Coaches Association (MFCA) came close, but that got overrun with people who were only interested in promoting their particular agendas and styles of play and resistance to creating something that everyone in the game and hobby could accept. and embrace.  

    We already have the Major manufacturers and corporate sponsors that could help to facilitate this with Tudor Games and ITZ Bases that have greatly improved the game boards and equipment that most people who play the game use today. And there are enough smaller companies and providers of EF products to provide additional sponsorship opportunities.     

    As you may or may not know Billy O'C is a member of the NEFGM Board of Directors and a very great source of support and inspiration for me and the Museum. He recently shared some ideas and some plans for his so called "Retirement" that involve some things that I feel are really great ideas and will help to promote and support not only the Museum but also the game and hobby overall. I am certainly looking forward to this time and working more closely with him on these ideas.  I am almost certain that what he created with the LIEFL and his experiences with it are the main source and model of much of what he is proposing. 

    Really enjoying the conversation!! Thanks Guys. I can talk and write about EF for hours. LOL!!

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  5. 13 hours ago, Long island EFL said:

    Ed Viggs is the guy to get--he knows all about Nashville. He went to Vanderbilt U and he knows a slew of EF ballers!

    That's Cool!! I try to go to at least one Vanderbilt Football game per season. It's fun to go to these games just to experience the whole College Football Game Day Experience. Vanderbilt is in the process of expanding their current stadium. Much needed but still the smallest venue in the SEC. Vanderbilt's fan base isn't very large and when you go to one of their games, the majority of the spectators are there for the visiting team, unless it is some much smaller non-conference opponent. 

    No, we don't keep records or stats, it is more about just getting together for the fun and fellowship and playing some games. 

    Playing for money is kind of a big taboo in most of the other sectors of the game and hobby. I do know of a couple of instances that it has been tried, some successfully but most unsuccessfully.  The major tournament circuits (the TOC and the MFBCS) and some of the other leagues do require a registration fee, but that is used mainly to pay for the facility where the events are held, food, snacks, soft drinks, and end of season awards and trophies.  It is totally free to play in the Music City EFL. It seems to work really well for you guys, and that's great. The LIEFL could definitely be used as a model of how to make this work successfully. Ever thought about producing some promotional videos or materials of how you guys do it??

    Most of the info, pics, etc. on the Music City EFL can be found on our Facebook Group Page. 

    Music City EFL on Facebook

    At the end of the day, Electric Football for most people, is still just that fun game that they used to play as a kid and a fun recreational activity and hobby. Some people have taken it much further with creating and developing very successful business with it such as the Klingbeil Bros. with their ITZ Bases and products and of course Bryan Nutt as the new owner of Tudor Games. There are several other people who have taken the technology of 3D Printing and created successful Cottage Industry businesses by offering various lines of 3D printed figures, bases and other related EF products, people who produce the decals for figures and of course the premier painters who create and sell the highly detailed and customized teams and figures that have become so popular to play the game with and create awesome looking home "man cave" displays. There are a few who have been very successful with making a business out of offering base "tweaking" surfaces.  And let's not forget the awesome EF Stadium experiences that some have created and the custom game board builders, and field cover and other field decoration graphic designers.  

    I am sure Norman Sas really had no idea that the simple kid's game and toy he created in 1949 would morph into what it has become today.  

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  6. 4 hours ago, Long island EFL said:

    the quality of the player bases I think, ws better than that of today. Just an opinion. 

    Would be interesting to see some of you guys compete against some of the TOC or MFBCS guys that use primarily the ITZ Bases. I would invite you to come down to the Nashville, TN area and play some of the guys in our Music City League. Our league is great. Small group of 6-8 coaches who get along really well. Very Competitive group but not like some of the other leagues that are larger and take the game way too seriously. We meet in the home of the league commissioner and play on custom 2' x 4' game boards. Very informal setting usually pizza and sandwiches provided. We have about half the group that drives 2- 3 hours just to play in this league. Always on a Saturday and 2 to 3 games usually played within about 6 hours.   We meet for usually 3 regular season game days and then an end of season one day Championship Tournament. Typically do a college season in the spring and a pro season in the fall. I don't play in it anymore, but I do go watch the others play and enjoy the food, fun and fellowship. Don't keep any of the team or player stats. Is more about just the fun and fellowship.  Sometimes I will do a Facebook live feed of the game and take pics to post on Facebook. But again, this is just more of a casual informal league experience. Someday I hope to get up to New York and visit with you guys. Was hoping to before Billy O'C retires and moves to Florida. I used to travel quite a bit to NY and Long Island when I was working for the Museum Exhibit Company. For several years I made an annual trip to Citi Field and the Mets Pro Shop and Hall of Fame before the start of the MLB regular season to do updates on some of the exhibits and displays there and usually stayed at the Holiday Inn Express Roslyn - Manhasset Area on Northern Blvd.     

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  7. I posed this question on Facebook, but I also would like to hear your thoughts comments and suggestions.

    At some point in the evolution of The National Electric Football Game Museum, I plan on creating an NEFGM Hall of Fame.

    Am interested in finding out what type of Hall of Fame, people would be interested in seeing and what the criteria should be for induction into this Hall of Fame.

    Thanks, in advance.

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  8. Awesome Video featuring Norbert "Thor" Revels and the Great Lakes EFL. Norbert is who I consider the "Premier" Base Tweaker in Electric Football. By the way, that is current Tudor owner Bryan "Beenutt" Nutt and Ken Allen, another legend in the history of Electric Football and Base Tweaker Extraordinaire facing off over the metal gridiron.  

     

     

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  9. I asked the creator of them to join the Tudor Games Forum. I told him there was a lot more interest in Solitaire EF and lot more interesting discussions on here than there is on Facebook. Hopefully he will join soon. 

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  10. 18 minutes ago, Long island EFL said:

    THOSE 620'S work great! There are several for sale on eBay right now. 

    Yeah, there is one for sale on Facebook Marketplace for$ 15.00. About an hour 1/2 drive from where I live, in KY. I will probably buy it and go get it very soon, possibly next week, if it is still available. Not that I need it!! But a really good price. 

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  11. 3 minutes ago, Terry43 said:

    Long live the Tudor 620.

    I don't think anything will ever beat the original Model 620 for quality. I have several of them in the collection of the museum that i plan on using to let people play on to experience how the game used to be played. I will probably have teams on the original single clip bases, but also will have some on the original TTC bases. Also, maybe even some more modern ITZ bases. 

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  12. Yeah, definitely Norman Sas and Lee Payne in the first class and probably the original 1949 Tudor Tru Action Electric Football Game Set.  

    I took a risk and posted the following on Facebook. Will be interesting to see the responses.  I think I know where it will go, but just want to be sure. 

    "At some point in the evolution of The National Electric Football Game Museum I plan on creating a NEFGM Hall of Fame. Am interested in finding out what type of Hall of Fame people would be interested in seeing and what the criteria should be for induction into this Hall of Fame." 

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  13. Thanks, Terry, for reading and posting a link to that issue of "the Tweak" and the article on Solitaire electric football. In case anybody is interested, there is a person working on developing some play cards, that I had a very good conversation with this week. Something that I have tried to do before but just couldn't get it worked out to my satisfaction. I really think this will be a "Game Changer" for the game and hobby. 

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  14. "I'm assuming you are speaking from personal experience with the MFCA Hall of Fame. Please, don't let it keep you awake at night. Life is too short and you have so much to share.

    The important thing is to have fun and Enjoy the Journey"

    Terry, yes!! From the very beginning I have always told people that a Museum Hall of Fame would not be a Coaches's Hall of Fame but rather a Game Set Hall of Fame and an Innovators, and Painter's Hall of Fame. People who have had the most influence or impact on the game through their creative, innovativd and artistist abiliites not for someone who's "Greatness" is determined by the number of "Gold Balls" or other tournament / league trophies they have setting on their shelves.

    What I have told the MFCA and TOC  or any other league organizers, is that if they want to celebrate their people with A "Hall of Fame., that I would provide a space for it( at a premium) with total responsibility of the maintenance and upkeep for it at their expense.  Needless to say I have had no takers and have received very little to absolutely no suppoert from these Organizations. Except from the LIEFL who have been very supportive of the Museum.

    As for the Dr. Pigskin articles in Crackin' Plastic. They are total fiction anf meant to be more satiricsl in nature.than anything else. However there is a certain amoount of truth in them that their opinions are based on. I certainly have been a personal witness to much of thst side of the game and hobby and why I peronally dont' attend most of these events anymore. 

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