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8 hours ago, BlueHen said:
For some reason, that's not making sense to me, LOL. Is it because with sticks you're playing further off in anticipation of the stick process verses trying to get inside position for the TTQB?
Yes. With sticks since the receiver and DB can make a play on the ball, it is more strategic to play off the receiver in zone coverage. When using the TTQB most rules don't allow passing to an engaged receiver (Receiver and Defensive player touching) so more strategic to play tight coverage.
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There are leagues that allow using either the TTQB or another Passing / Kicker figure or Passing Sticks. However, that choice must be made prior to the beginning of the game and must be used throughout the first half but can be changed to the other method for the second half.
In the Music City EFL at one time we allowed the choice of a TTQB or passing sticks on every pass but not until after the board was stopped to attempt the pass. It made it harder to defense against the pass since you didn't know which method was going to be used and each typically requires a different defensive scheme to defend against. There was really only one coach who would use this tactic, but he won a lot of games by playing that way. He was semi handicapped since he had suffered a stroke previously and was still recovering, but he had enough strength in his passing hand to still use a TTQB. We finally went to the rule that you had to make a choice before the game and stick to it for at least one half.
Have I ever mentioned that the use of passing sticks basically came about as an alternative method for handicapped coaches, who were physically unable to throw a pass with a TTQB or another passer / kicker figure. it gained popular use first as an alternative method for kids and beginners just learning to play and later as an alternative method to passing in solitaire play. At least that is the history of it as I perceive of it and observed in traveling around to different areas of the country for league and tournament events. It is possible it could have been around long before that, but not that I am aware of.
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53 minutes ago, Daryl Collins said:
This hobby has a niche for just about everyone.
Lord knows if Tudor goes away tomorrow, I have enough for the rest of my days, but where’s the fun in that?
Life’s good.Agreed!! Fortunately, i have a stockpile of figures to paint to keep me busy for a long time. Unfortunately, my eyesight is failing, and I will be having cataract surgery very soon to hopefully correct that so that I can keep on painting my own team and figures.
If not, that is OK too, since I enjoy the collecting, trading, buying, selling and solitaire game playing "niches" of the game and hobby. And of course, there is that "museum" thing that I am trying to build.
YES, Life is Good!! Enjoy while you are still able, in whatever capacity you able to.
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Don't know why I haven't posted earlier, but yes I do. Primarily replica and reproduction "Tudor Clascic" teams. Since I will never be able to afford the real thing, here are my "Extremely Rare" Reproduction 1969 Black Helmet Saints. Repainted Miggle 67 Big Man figures.
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Here is an opportunity to participate in and/or witness an electric football tournament event at one of the highest levels of competition. for more Information fo to their fakebook page or website.
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11 hours ago, Long island EFL said:
WE PLAY BY OUR RULES NOT TUDOR RULES! I HAVE PLAYED IN A NUMBER OF LEAGUES AND TOURNAMENTS IN THE NORTHEAST, AND I THINK BY FAR THIS IS AS COMPETITIVE AS ANY LEAGUE I HAVE EVER COMPETED IN, WITH THE BEST RULES.
Awesome!! Do you have a written set of rules that I could get a copy of for inclusion in the NEFGM Library Rules Files? Thanks.
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8 hours ago, BlueHen said:
The funny thing is, I almost didn't get the first one because I was thinking: USC Trojans....
Can you imagine if the Skins' were the only team I didn't get? 🤣🤫
Yes, that would have been funny. Understandable though and could definitely be used for either one.
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20 minutes ago, BlueHen said:
OK, I'm going with (from top to bottom):
1.) Redskins
2.) Eagles
3.) Colts
4.) Cowboys
5.) Dolphins
6.) Broncos
7.) Oilers
8.) Bills
9.) Chargers
10.) Patriots
Very Good!! Absolutely 100% correct.
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The Commissioner of the LIEFL, BIlly O'C, has become a really good friend or mine and is very supportive of the NEFGM so much so that I asked him to join the Board of Directors of the Museum. He was kind enough to donate one of the teams from the LIEFL (Tennessee Titans) to the museum. One of the things that I love the most about the write ups of this league are the game action photos with the graphic enhancements and the videos that they have made. It is to him, and I am sure other members of the LIEFL, that I owe for taking the VHS tapes donated by the Deep South MFL and converting them to digital media so that I could download them to the NEFGM YouTube Channel. If you have ever checked into having this done, you know how expensive that is. Billy also created this cover photo for the National and International Brotherhood of Electric Football Facebook Group.
Personally, I wish more of the competitive leagues would but the time and effort into recording the history of their leagues that the LIEFL does. This is the stuff that makes up the history of the ELECTRIC FOOTBALL Community that is so vital to the history of the game and hobby and without which the museum would just be a bunch of old game boards hanging on the walls.
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2 hours ago, Jay said:
Pay for the custom teams. Trust me. Beenutt has some super talented painters doing the custom painted teams. Worth every single penny that you’ll pay.
I do have to agree with Jay. I never have cared for the Uni-forms. They are OK but take a great deal of patience and don't look that great IMO. I have done a couple of teams of them. But just not that satisfied with the result. I prefer to paint my own teams and have used Tudor's decals. Tudor's decals are not the greatest quality either. I mostly paint reproduction and replica "Tudor Classic" teams using 67 Big Men and Haiti Repro figures, but I don't use decals. They are all hand painted. You can find many of them posted in the Showcase - Photo Gallery section of this forum. I have also done a lot of logo-less teams just the uniforms. Here's are some examples of those. Can you recognize the teams they are supposed to represent without the lgogs? Hint late 60's NFL and AFL teams.
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They sure would be easy to paint and decal. Figures with pre-painted skin tones. Silver helmet. Sleeve and Helmet decals.
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Like all your ideas. I am open to any and all suggestions. I am really thinking $100,00 to get started, and that is just to secure a lease for a commercial building for one year. There are several locations that come up around here where I live, that is for rent or lease that would be suitable to get started in. I got "Raiderman" Paul Bartels to draw up a basic floor plan for a building last year that was 4500 sq ft. and with the cost of building materials at that time, we estimated it would cost $900,000 to build it and that was just for the building, it does not include the property.
Ideally, I would like for it to become part of another museum, such as the National Museum of Toys and Miniatures in Kansas City, MO or the Stong National Museum of Play in Rochester, NY.
The success of the "Art of the Buzz" exhibit that I did in the Pryor Art Gallery at the first of last year did indicate to me that an EF Museum could be a viable permanent museum exhibit and tourist attraction somewhere.
Some of the other options that I have around here are the Tennessee State Museum and the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame in Nashville.
The Pro Football Hall of Fame did an Electric Football exhibit in 2001 and read somewhere not too long ago that someone was able to get a display of electric football in the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame at one time.
I do have the advantage of having worked in some of these museums (Tennessee Sports HOF, PFHOF, and the Packers HOF) during my career as a museum exhibit fabricator and installer as well as many others around the country. That is the job I retired from 4 years ago.
Another option that I am looking into is becoming a part of a local city or county Parks and Recreation Dept. since part of my concept for the museum does include an interactive play area for people to experience playing the game.
Have I ever mentioned that I am not dead set on it being located here where I live? I am open to relocating it anywhere in the US as long as a building can be provided and there is someone who is as passionate about preserving the game and its history as I am who I can trust to be responsible for its upkeep and day-to-day operation. I got the artifacts if you got the place to put 'em!! What more can you ask for?
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Most Regional ELECTRIC FOOTBALL Leagues and Regional and National Tournaments use the Tournament of Champions (TOC) Rules or some variation thereof regardless of whether they are using pro teams, college teams, high school teams or fantasy teams.
Localized leagues may have their own set of rules, but the TOC has pretty much become the standard on the highly competitive league and tournament circuit. I am not sure of the exact numbers but there are generally 30-40 coaches that regularly compete in the TOC Series of Tournament Events. The other major competitive circuit is the Miniature Football Bowl Championship Series which has a larger membership with local and regional league competitions and then an annual National Championship Tournament at the end of their season.
There is a lot of cross membership and participation with many of the same coaches playing in two, three or even four leagues at the same time.
I used to participate in several of these levels of competition and still enjoy going to watch some of these games and seeing many of the people that I have gotten to know through the game over the years at these events. However, the level of competitiveness just gotten way more serious than I like, taking the fun out of playing the game.
My main focus now is on the collecting and hobby side of the game and playing solitaire. And of course, trying to build the National ELECTRIC FOOTBALL Game Museum into an actual physical museum that people can come to and learn more about the game and experience playing the game.
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My goal from the very beginning of the creation of The National ELECTRIC FOOTBALL Game Museum has been to build a physical location to house the artifacts, collections and media library archives of the museum and to provide a place where people can view displays and exhibits featuring the artifacts and collections of the museum as well as learn more about the history of the game and experience playing the game firsthand.
In the four years since that time, I have been able to create and build a very successful virtual museum with a worldwide audience on the internet. nefgm.org
The question I get asked more than any other is if this is a place I can come and visit. The answer is yes, the temporary location of the museum which is housed in the bonus room and a spare bedroom of my house is always open to anyone who would like to visit if you are ever in the area (Spring Hill, TN in the area 30 miles south of Nashville just off I-65).
But it is not the permanent location of my vision for the museum.
Therefore, I have established a building fund in honor and memory of one of our founding members of the NEFGM Board of Directors to solicit and accept donations to help us with this fulfillment of this vision. Please click here to learn more about this opportunity.
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Yeah, I don't know the real reason why not allowing the QB to be a lead blocker became illegal in electric football, other than most QB's (mostly in the professional levels) just don't do it. That is my biggest beef with a lot of the rules that leagues and tournaments have come up with is that they have made a lot of things illegal that aren't illegal in real football.
I understand every level of competition has to have rules and if you are going to play at those levels you have to abide by those rules. I don't play competitively any longer because of some of the things that have been taken out of the game that should not have been.
Solitaire is the only level of electric football where you can devise any way to play the game that makes it more fun and exciting for you, yourself. It's your game, your rules. "Just have fun and play the game".
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So, if you really think about it, basically every play in electric football starts after the snap of the ball and the quarterback already has the ball in his hand or in some cases has already handed the ball off to another ball carrier so it only stands to reason that at this point every player has already completed their initial movements in the progression of the play. My question then would be, should you also allow the defensive players to be well into their initial reactions to these key moves by the offense?
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5 minutes ago, Terry43 said:
Absolutely priceless. 😃👍
Terry43, since you liked that one so much, here is another one for you.
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Obviously, when the game was invented, it was just a kid's game to be played causally among friends and family for fun and entertainment. I doubt very seriously, Norman Sas or Lee Payne had any idea that it would become one of the most popular competitive sports games that it is now. What is even more amazing is that the same basic technology that was invented to power the game boards and give movement to the players has virtually remained unchanged for 75 years. Sure, it has been tweaked and improved upon by many others, but it still goes back to that original patent for a "Vibrating Propelling Device."
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Here is an example of a team roster created by Reginald Rutledge.
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I have toyed around with basing the weight of players on the following scale: 1 gram = 60 lbs. A long time ago, Reginald Rutledge came up with the idea of a weighting system called Cumulative Weight Distribution that is based on 1 gram = 50lbs. I have always thought this was a more realistic way to create a team and weight players.
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You might try this one: info@theunforgettablebuzz.com or through this website
Playland In Photos: Ocean City Amusement Park Memories (earlshores.com)
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The best way to assess potential merchants and people doing this is to join the many facebook groups related to electric football and get reccomendations There are only a handful of artist that I personnally reccomend and that is only because I have seen their work first hand and have known them for many years.
As far as pricing, there is always that old thing of you get what you pay for. But at the same time just because you are paying someone $300 for a fully detailed team doesn't mean you are going to get $300 worth of quality.
Custom painted teams with all the detailing aren't cheap. Unfortunately there are those in this game and hobby who will take advantage of you.
I can connect you with Kyle. I will send you a private message.
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35 minutes ago, Terry43 said:
What I know now is that I can go to Amazon and order a full size magnetic refrigerator cover, cut it down to 24" X 48", and add black (Sharpie) yard lines and hashmarks.
A whole new world of field covers has opened up to me.
Yeah, I thought that looked kind of cool. Better than some of the other designs I have seen people come up with. Personally, I am very traditional. I just want a "green grass" football field without all the distractions on it.
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Beenutt figures
in Teams and Figures
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Personally, I like to keep my teams all one size and type of figure. Either Hati Repro or 67 Big Men. but then I also only use 11-player "ironman" squads for my solitaire teams. The only time I have mixed figures and used different sizes together have been for the league and tournament teams that I have created with 30 player rosters of 67 Big Men and Buzzball Figures.
In the past it was not uncommon to mix players of several different size, type and manufacturer to create teams.
With today's technology of being able to 3D print electric football figures, it is possible to create teams with all kinds of different sizes and more realistic individualized poses.