Coach Shawn
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I hope the Stadium becomes available again. I definitely want it. Other purchases kept taking priority but I have placed the stadium at the top of my buy list,
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GTO has a strong running game. The linemen do a great job of opening holes.
The hoosiers managed to halt that over time drive which surprised me. The GTO looked like they were going downfield with ease.
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21 minutes ago, Greg F said:
“If the defensive player is the cause of the offensive lineman falling over and into the QB, then there will be a flip as to whether the QB falls or stays upright. If he stays upright, he can scramble (if possible) or throw.”
Nice, it potentially rewards the defender for an outstanding hit, but leaves room for the QBs athleticism to avoid falling.
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Another factor would be what kind of scrambling rules you have.
My rule is once the offense stops the field to check for an open receiver then the QB must pass, which may be a throwaway pass if he is out of the pocket, or he can choose to run the ball. The QB cannot be pivoted to run. The defense is allowed to pivot all non-engaged figures.
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17 minutes ago, Greg F said:
Here is the actual situation on camera
It looks like your QB is in a freeze frame, thus “standstill “. This helps see all the implications.
The fallen player is effectively “blocking” and preventing the sack (and likely a safety).I do not remove fallen players. If this was my league the QB is still free to pass if he has an open receiver.
If he cannot or chooses not to pass (a safety is cheaper than a pick six) then it is a coverage sack. Since he is in the pocket he cannot throw the ball away.
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1 hour ago, Curt said:
If the QB is not down, I let him move as best as possible. If the QB is knocked over too, he is considered down and the next play resumes at his furthest forward gain if that makes sense.
In my league When a receiver falls he can stand back up and he is still a valid target, however, the orange stick is added to whatever passing stick is called for. For the fallen QB the same rule would apply. So the QB could still pass but the orange stick would increase the ball marker placement.
Now you have me thinking..,should the QB that has been placed upright be allowed to run with the ball? I’ll have to think about that.
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7 hours ago, Terry43 said:
The strategy of placing a running back behind the stationary QB sort of baffled me. Is that a strategy created by passing sticks?
By placing the RB behind the standstill QB he hoped to gain several advantages;
First he ends up with what is, in effect, an extra standstill player. Once the RB contacts the QB he usually stops. This leaves the RB in position for the short red stick pass if no one else gets open. This backfired at least once when the RB hit the QB but did not stop, but instead he pushed the QB forward and my line got a sack.
Second, It also forces me to guard against him using the RB to run the ball.
I believe he abandoned this practice after that season.
Thanks again for the compliments. It was an exciting game. I need to get TB v and VI edited and put on youtube.
I won TB V in overtime and Lost TB VI on the last play of regulation!! Very exciting games.
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2 hours ago, Terry43 said:
I film my games just so I can watch those runs over and over again.
Yes! It is so fun to relive those EF moments.
video is also very instructive. You can slow down the playback and really see what happened. Even better, you can see how the play might have gone better if only this guy was angled this way or that, etc.
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Those look nice. Maybe I need to paint my early Tudor teams. I just have two teams of this style
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Okay. My scanner could not connect to my phone so I had to take photos and put them together. Not great but will at least let you guys see the booklet. The original is normal paper size. I apparently bought it from Tudor in 1978. The copyright is dated 1976.
I will get a good scan as soon as I can.
in the meantime I hope this version is useful. Also sorry but as a kid I put notes on the pages.8ManEF.pdf
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When my brother and I played in the 70’s and 80’s we only had a Tudor 500 field and a Coleco field to use.
The Coleco was bigger than the 500 but we still used both fields.Due to the field size we decided to play 8 man football. In fact Tudor sold a paper booklet full of info on plays to run using 8 man football formations. I still have it and will try to post it to this board if I can get it scanned. My memory recalls the author was Brian Hainline (?).
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4 minutes ago, Greg F said:
But, I’ve had quite a few 60, 70, 80 yard TDs by getting the hall to the RB in space.
In this case I would keep my loopers going in for the QB and have my LB’s slant out to cover the flats. This leaves your center a little exposed though. You could also have your loopers go after the RB’s instead but this will allow your opponent more time to choose his moment to stop the field.
sometimes I have my CBs turned to drop back deep and have my safeties turned to move toward the line. Practice this so your safeties hit the LOS about the time the RBs fo on a sweep.-
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Are you stick passing? Also what are your pivoting rules?
I use stick passing and so My advice is based on that. For stick passing against a fast team I make sure l have two good loopers to force the coach to keep some of his attention on the blitz. Also this should limit his time to run the board and hopefully stop him from moving his receivers to the gaps.
I bump his top receiver at the line but all the rest I play zone. My goal is to put defenders into each area of the field, anticipating where his men will go.
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3 hours ago, NO Dave said:
It's been a run. This hobby means more when you do more. Go out and meet the community.
Congratulations on what clearly has been a rewarding journey through Electric Football!!
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4 hours ago, Terry43 said:
I see a column SPD. Does that stand for Speed? I'm guessing STR stands for strength. Have you created a metric for that?
Yes. I slowly deduce these things. I realized I should just list them in order rather than use the column.
for strength I just test them within their own team to see where they rank on that team. Strongest player is listed as 1, and so on.
I have slways intended to set up a standard test that applies a universal rate for strength. That way I could see the rate for the Lions Center and compare it to the Steelers Nose Guard snd see who is stronger. My current method only tells me that the Lion’s Center is the strongest player on his team but doesn’t tell me how his strength compares to the Steelers Nose guard .
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37 minutes ago, Terry43 said:
I'm glad you loaded the whole 2nd quarter of Treasure Bowl IV on Youtube and then linked it to the Forum. 😃👍 I watched it twice!
Thanks for the complements on the video. If you want to see the whole game here is the link;
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18 hours ago, Terry43 said:
Coach Shawn, I showed your pictures of your play-calling wrist band to my wife. She responded, "Christmas is coming. I know what I'm getting you for Christmas
It makes a great gift for an EF coach!
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My favorites;
when I got back into the hobby and setup to play my first official season game in years, the Vikings took the opening kick off 100 yards! What a cool way to start my new league!
Then back in Treasure Bowl IV my opponent was at my 35 yd line, threatening to score on the last play of the first half. I decided to leave his center uncovered so he would move out and open a hole for my MLB to shoot thru and sack the QB. It worked perfectly!!! See the end of the video below.
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On 9/8/2023 at 11:03 AM, Terry43 said:
On the ensuing pass play Norsemen #8 caught the pass at the line of scrimmage and then tippy-toed down the sideline into the End Zone.
Great story. I love when EF players do this…looks like they are going out of bounds but somehow just keep sliding down field !!
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11 minutes ago, Terry43 said:
If I'm reading this correctly, in the last picture, player #82 turns to the left. If he is approaching the ball marker from twelve o'clock then he needs to be pivoted about 5 degrees. If approaching from 1:30 then he doesn't need to be pivoted at all. Approaching from 3 o'clock he needs about a 5 degree pivot.
Yes you are correct. Although not sure what degrees the angles come out to .
11 minutes ago, Terry43 said:I noticed the stars. Is #82 sort of like a Rob Gronkowski, or Travis Kelce? On the other hand, I'm not sure what to think of #10 and #33.
#82 Dante Hall is my fastest and best receiver. Gronkowski is #87 and he is a star as well. He is strong and fast. I trust him with blocking and receiving.
#33 and #10 Were performing unreliably at the time I made the card so I put a pause on coding them. Haven’t got back to them yet.
The receivers and RB’s are listed in order of speed (even though I do have a spd column on the sheet).
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In competition I wear a QB play calling wrist band, but mine shows all the path codes for my players.
My younger opponents laugh but, hey, my memory is terrible. They remember how all their guys move plus they remember mine as well.
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On 9/8/2023 at 11:50 AM, Terry43 said:
I like the diagrams on the wall. You've spent some time thinking about your players. 🤔
My receivers, RBs, Safeties, LB’s and Cornerbacks have their run paths “coded” according to the diagram. I use the White Stick w/Pressure distance as my base.
I find the vast majority will be coded either LFL or RFR for White Stick w/ pressure distance.
My competition team has all of those codes but they are coded for each direction of approach and each stick distance as well. So they have a code for approaching the ball marker from the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o’clock positions. Yes the players paths often change depending upon the direction they are going.
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4 hours ago, zak99b5 said:
Looks like a sure INT if offense 81 doesn't block 23. Did that figure into your pass placement?
Yes. I can’t turn offense, other than the receiver, so I just hoped he would make the block.
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Golden Grizzlies vs Shamrock Bay
in The Highlight Reel – Video Gallery
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Wow. The game opened with a bang!
Loved the Shamrocks first play from scrimmage, it is epic. Beautiful blocking and the runner slips just inside the looper. At this point it looked to me like his angle would take him out of bounds but he makes the corner and breaks it down to the 1 yard line!
great videos and as usual some awesome and interesting plays.