Terry43

Hi. Inside the ten I usually run the ball rather than pass. Inside the ten passing is hampered because the QB doesn't have the full 20-yard drop back yards allowed by rule. Running the ball out of the End Zone is usually easier than running anywhere else on the field because of the slump of the field. The running back is literally running downhill. 😃 Finally, on a run play inside the ten I use the tight ends to block the edge rushers (loopers) so I lose two potential targets. These three things add up to rare safeties. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

That makes perfect sense. 😃 I'm not great at math but it seems a ratio of 1 : .70 might work. ⚖️ A Tudor TTC base is 1 inch. I have a 620 and 5 yards is not quite 1.5 inches. On an Ultimate Field 5 yards in 2 inches. A Tudor blue stick is 2 inches long, or about 5 yards on an Ultimate field. So, 2 times .70 = 1.4. 1.4 is about 5 yards on a 620. A Tudor white stick is 4 inches long, or about 10 yards on an Ultimate field. So, 4 times .70 = 2.8. 2.8 is about 10 yards on a 620. A Tudor red stick is 6 inches long, or about 15 yards on an Ultimate field. So. 6 times .70 = 4.2. 4.2 is about 15 yards on a 620. I hope that helps. T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Hi. An outstanding question! In 30 seasons I have record of only 8 safeties. In Season 6, on August 28, 1988, the Oughtin' Otters scored two safeties, by different players, in the same game. Both safeties were the result of coverage sacks. THEN, July 14, 2022, the Oughtin' Otters OLB #50 scored two safeties in the same game! Once again, both safeties were the result of coverage sacks. Last bit of trivia, In Fruit Bowl 23, the Meteor scored a safety by tackling the Blue Jay receiver in the End Zone. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

I don't think field size makes a difference. This is how passing sticks work and I believe pressure sticks work the same way. But I'm not 100% positive about that. Tudor Games Passing sticks differ a bit from those you may have seen in the past. Why? Well, rather than being based on any one field size or scale, the Tudor Games sticks are designed around one of the constants in the game of Electric Football—base lengths. Regardless of the field size you may play on, from small vintage boards to the Ultimate Tudor boards or any boards in between, we all use the similar bases and figures. The standard length of these bases then has become the basis by which the Tudor Games passing sticks were designed upon. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Here's the video where I first saw Stop Forward Progress Tackling. Enjoy the Journey. T43

This is quoted from a post written over a year ago. My tackle rule use to be that a ball carrier is tackled when a defensive player touches the ball carrier. I used this rule even though I knew that most College, or NFL, or even High School running backs are rarely stopped by first contact. So, in fact I was playing touch football 🙂 and pretending it is tackle football. Now I use a 'Stop Forward Progress' rule. Touching front, back, or sides is not enough. A long duration touch doesn't constitute a tackle. Multiple simultaneous touches do not constitute a tackle. The defender(s) must stop the ball carrier's forward progress. I define Stopping Forward Progress as causing the ball carrier to run parallel to the Line to Gain, or backwards away from the Line to Gain. In my experience this really opens up the running game because: 1. Loopers may change the ball carrier's direction but they rarely stop forward progress; 2. A strong running back will push defenders out of the way much like a Derek Henry or Bo Jackson; 3. On a Tudor 620 field, the 3 — 4 defense is susceptible to the easy 7 to 8 yard gain on every down because a ball carrier's base is four yards long and it's easy to get to the second level (linebackers); and, 4. On a Tudor 620 field a two-deep safety defense must move right up to the line of scrimmage which opens up the long pass. Drop back passing: When I'm playing a game, my QB usually starts out under center and is fading back to handoff, pass, or run. So, in effect the QB is running away from the line to gain, or backwards. As long as the QB is moving backwards then I consider a touch by a defensive player to count as a QB sac. The moment the QB starts running toward the line to gain, then the defensive player must Stop the QB's Forward Progress. Sweeps: Forcing the defense to Stop Forward Progress really improves sweeps, Jet sweeps, and end arounds, because the ball carrier can slide around defensive players. A tight end only has to be a tiny bit stronger than a defensive player to set the edge. Kick Offs and Punt Returns: I think you can foresee how Stopping Forward Progress improves Kick offs and Punt Returns. You'll never take a touchback again. 😃 You've spent hours getting those running backs tweaked for power, speed, and straightness, so let them horses run! 😁 T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Stop Forward Progress tackling. The defender must stop the ball carriers forward progress. T43 ⚡🏈♾️

April 14, not April 20. Sorry. T43

April 20, 2020. Found it on Google, but not with the Tudor search box. Terry 43🤔

I found this: TVEFL stick passing rules: The TVEFL uses the standard Buzzball length red, white, and blue ball placement sticks and red/white measuring stick. I created pressure as an enhancement to the passing sticks rules. You meed the following; Orange Stick: 2 3/4” long. Used to determine if the defense has put pressure on the QB. Measure from QB helmet to the helmet of any unengaged defensive player. Note the orange stick is also used when choosing to pass to a receiver that has fallen over. The orange stick is added to the correct ball placement stick thus increasing the distance of the ball placement. Fallen defenders do not suffer a penalty to stand up. Red Pressure Stick: 2 1/2” long. This ball placement stick is used when a red stick distance is needed but the QB is under pressure. White Pressure Stick: 4 3/16” long. This ball placement stick is used when a white stick distance is needed but the QB is under pressure. Blue Pressure Stick: 5 15/16” long. This ball placement stick is used when a blue stick distance is needed but the QB is under pressure.

Hi. The Christmas Spirit beat the Iron Horse rather easily, 35 — 21. These highlights sort of illustrate how competitive the 1949 steel bases can be if they receive some TLC (tweaking, labor, and cash) 😉 . The Iron Horse defense has a long way to go. Iron HOrse 3rd Quarter Highlights - SD 480p.mov Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Very concise. Very practical. 📖 I'm not sure, but that seems like the definitive answer. T43 ⚡🏈♾️

"Adjusted at the factory," is just priceless. 🤣 I knew you would know. Thank you for taking time to scan all those Instruction Manuals. It's like a dissertation! 🎓 Thank you! Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Hi. I play one game a week. Season 30 took 14 weeks and I anticipate Season 31 will take 13 or 14 weeks, but summer could add a couple weeks. Currently the dates don't line up because work / moving / Tudor going out of business / vacations have caused me to miss whole years of playing. 1983 is my starting date because that's the year my wife bought me an EF game for Christmas. In 1976 I tossed in the garbage my original Wards game when I went to college and I was too mature to play EF. I feel much younger now. 😃 Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Museum Wax isn't glue so it might not work for repairing broken arms and broken legs. I believe it would work great for holding Jim Thorpe to a golf tee. 😀 Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Hi. My 31st Season started today, June 1st. I'm calling this season the Iron Horse #6 Season because this is the 6th time I've included the Iron Horse in my Double Elimination tournament. The Iron Horse are special because the bases are 1949 steel bases. The plastic figures were Tudor Moon Sharks. The 1949 bases were made with two mud flap prongs so originally the only tweaking was pressing the prongs forward or backwards. The 1949 game came with instructions on how to do this. To the best of my knowledge — and the current Tudor web page aside — these are the only two times Tudor or Miggle suggested in their booklets that the bases might need tweaking. The National Electric Football Game Museum probably has better information on this. Intuition informed me that steel bases could do better. First, I reasoned the bases could run faster. I reduced friction by sanding a curve into the mud flap prongs (or reeds as the instructions say) creating four distinct points of contact. Each point of contact can be slightly 🤏 bent to change direction. Then, on some players — like offensive linemen — I turned the base around so the flat back side of the base becomes the flat front side. This enables linemen to hold their blocks longer. #88 shows the original orientation of the base and #69 shows the base turned around. #55 shows an original orientation where I sanded the front of the base flat. This didn't help. 🙁 1949 steel bases weight in at around 3.57 grams. Adding a plastic figure adds another 1.88 grams, for an average total weight of 5.45 grams. Tudor TTC bases with figures average about 3.10 grams. In my 16th season this added weight enabled the Iron Horse to push their way into the Fruit Bowl where they lost to the much faster Blue Jays. During the ensuing offseason I experimented with adding weight to all my teams. As the saying goes, the rest is history. Over five seasons the Iron Horse have compiled a win/loss record of 7 — 6 and have a permanent place in my heart. I would never part with my 1949 Iron Horse. Enjoy the Journey. Terry 43 ⚡🏈♾️

This is wonderful. I think, at some point in the future, this might be an excellent donation to the National Electric Football Game Museum. T43 ⚡🏈♾️

should be eight teams. Sorry.

Hi. I keep per game statistics but not per player statistics. In football players rise from Pop Warner Leagues, to High School, to College, and ultimately the NFL, or CFL. Great players get better at each step along the way. I felt the need to duplicate that rise in talent in my electric football league. Step 1: Buy about 240 bases (TTC and Rookie). Step 2: Create eight teams (plastic figures only) that have 20 players per team. I number the players, but I rarely paint. Step 3: Randomly choose 20 TTC and 10 Rookie bases for each of the six teams. Randomly assign bases to players. Step 4: I make sure the front and back prongs of the TTC bases are pointing back. On Rookie bases I make sure the back prongs are pointing back. I don't touch the front prongs of the Rookie bases at all. Step 5: The eight teams play four games. Think of this like Pop Warner Football. Step 6: Winning and losing players receive a bit more prong tweaking, player base exchanges, player exchanges, and whatever each team seems to need to win. Step 7: The eight teams play another round of four games. Think of this like High School Football. Step 8: The four winning teams absorbs the best players of the four losing teams. Losing team bases are tossed in the garbage. Step 9: Play another round of games. Think of this like College Football. Step 10: Winning teams absorb the best players of the losing teams. Remaining losing team bases are tossed in the garbage. Step 11: I repeat game playing until I have two teams that have absorbed all the best players. I play a double elimination tournament. Think of these two teams as potentially worthy of the NFL, but not quite there. Both teams receive paint. Step 12: The winner of the Championship game receives additional weight. (A #6 nut, a #6 washer, and a #6 X ½ inch machine screw) Think of this one team as the first NFL team. By this time I know the players so well I don't need Per Player statistics. Repeat 32 times. 😉 Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Welcome Seadog852. 👋 Excellent goal you've set for yourself. 🏆 This is how I accomplish that goal. Definition: A Player is the unique combination of plastic figure and base. Change either the figure, or the base, and you have a new Player. Rookies = Player has been tweaked and is ready to play, but hasn't played in a game. Lower Mid-level = Player has played in at least one game. The game may have been a winning game, or a losing game. Upper Mid-Level = Player has played in at least two winning games. The games need not be consecutive, but they must be in the same season. Seasoned Player = Player receives weight (in grams) to make the Player weight over 5 grams. This is different from most leagues. My experience has demonstrated that weight actually improves strength, speed, straightness, and consistency. It's like adding a turbo-charger to your '57 Chevy 283. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Hi. Gotham was a Canadian Company but they might have applied for copyright protection of their game documents. "Key Plays of All NFL Teams," sounds original and was probably produced in-house. I don't know. I do know that Gotham, or the person who produced the document, might still be covered by copyright. Gotham created the document in 1965, so according to copyright law the document could be protected for 95 years. "Thus the maximum total term of copyright protection for works already protected by January 1, 1978, has been increased from 56 years (a first term of 28 years plus a renewal term of 28 years) to 95 years (a first term of 28 years plus a renewal term of 67 years). Applying these standards, all works published in the United States before January 1, 1928, are in the public domain." Duration of Copyright, United States Copyright Office, Circular 15A So, I'm excited to see the "Key Plays of All NFL Teams," and I certainly want to try running those plays, but a public forum operated by a For-Profit business (Tudor) may not be the correct venue for me to see the booklet. That's why I asked if it was legal. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Hi, Awesome Stadium. I wonder how many Gotham Big Bowls still exist? Or, more tragic, what percentage ended in the landfill a year later? Is it legal for the Electric Football Game Museum to post pages from the Key Plays book on this Forum? I'd like to try setting up a few plays. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Silicone Silicone is a really great idea, also. I use Museum Wax because it's available on Amazon. But Silicone is available at my local hardware store! Brilliant. Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️

Greg, the reason you can't find those EF cigar boxes is because I bought them on Ebay! Just joking, But you aren't the only person to keep their teams in cigar boxes and I did buy this collection on Ebay from someone in California. Neatest, and most tiny lettering for nameplates that I've ever seen. Enjoy the Journey. T43. ⚡🏈♾️

Thank you! 🤩 I play Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild before each game! Metallica and the San Francisco Symphony played at halftime of Fruit Bowl 30! Enjoy the Journey T43 ⚡🏈♾️