Curt

Ok, thanks for that. Perhaps then maybe one day, Collector's Corner will help out. I'll keep looking, thinking, and praying for ways to get you and the NEFGM promoted. Blessings, Curt 🙂

While it is said if there is nothing good to share then share nothing at all but sir Chris while not great news, I wanted to let you know that at least there are others out here who want to see the NEFGM thrive as you have dreamed for so long and will try to see that realized. I fear I have failed you. 😞 If memory serves, the NEFGM is classified as 501C, right? Well, the company I work for touts they will donate up to $25,000.00 to any qualifying 501C organization of an employee's choice. The "fine print" that killed my attempt to get you a significant donation came from specifications that any "qualifying" 501C organization must in some way be involved in providing food, clothing, and or shelter for the needy. Go figure. I tried but I do keep your noble efforts in my thoughts and prayers. Sorry it was not better news. Best wishes of Blessings, Curt

Thanks, I believe it took me 2 days to set that up and then another day for my wife to take the pictures while I created its narrative but y'all are worth it. Blessings, Curt. 🙂

Awesome, thanks for sharing. 🙂

Both videos = WAY WAY KEWL - Thanks! 🙂

Saw this on Yahoo. Like him or not he made football history. Dedicated to all who have the Juice on their Buffalo Bills teams or are just plain fans. O.J. Simpson dead at 76 after battle with cancer, family announces. I got to see him when the Bills destroyed my 49ers.

Well said Gentle-Dudes. No need for the Dark Side on the football force but anyone is welcome anytime to e-mail me using the private e-mail link at the top any time for any reason. I have many father-son football moments actually but like being there at Texas Stadium that one day, dad took me to see my favorite 49ers play the Bills and of course they got whooped but you know what was historically kewl about that game. I got to see O.J's heyday, in person. 🙂 And that influences how I operate my EF league. I strictly have the Fab Five figures without numbers, so I don't play Bart Starr or Brett Favre for my Packers or any particular one person for any team. I differentiate, as weird [My Weirdness!!!!!] as it may sound, using figure type and skin tone to determine who serves where on any given play. And last, going all out college teams would not allow me my desired even number of home and away games for each team and completing a schedule within a calendar year, so my EF league is all NFL. Blessings Curt 🙂

Ok, time to ramble 🙂 Let's get this party started. Oh boy did the thoughts start flying when I read this. Ok, first quote: "In order to truly have a great rivalry like the Boys and Skins had, your archrival has to be someone who is successful and that you respect. Agreed, the boys back then were successful but respected? Maybe by many but not really much by me. Ok, the feather rustling has begun? Since the company my dad worked for had season tickets. I was lucky enough to go to many games, so I got a good look at things that were really going on down in the Lone Star State. Mind you I was just a kid, so all I knew was WIN, WIN, and Win again. So, like that Turkey Day in absolutely miserable winter weather, significantly trailing Washington, I easily got ticked off when Dallas would execute a run play for maybe a couple of yards if lucky. I was thinking, "Here we are suffering out here in the elements and you're not even trying to win". Apologies for ruffling more feathers but I was happy to see Clint Longley take over and give the crowd what they wanted, expected, and even deserved for spending the money and braving the elements etc. which was a win. Even the cold went away because the excitement skyrocketed over it. There were several other games I attended that were similar. Like in some pre-season games, I guess coaches were there watching how the team was executing plays but not orchestrating any attempts to really win a game. The most disappointing of all was a pre-season game against the Raiders. I think that silver and black looks tough and they proved it. Oakland destroyed us cuz we were wimping out with little run plays and I was thinking to myself "for God's sake throw the ball and try to win this game." I think I quit going after that actually because by that point I had lost at least some interest for the team even though I still respect and honor the success Tom Landry had overall. One more note on success before moving on to my next Bluehen quote. The success of the DC was them playing together as a solid team but there was one obstacle they could not overcome, the Superbowl's against Terry Bradshaw's Pittsburgh Steelers. They would make it just so far as the very end of the season but never captured that trophy. I remember John Madden used to predict who would win if certain teams would play each other. I like to wonder how Joe Montana's SF 49ers would have fared against TB's PS. Ok, quote #2: "I stopped watching the NFL years ago because of the amount of money going on and the style of play, and of course how the game has become so politicized." Hmm, the money thing. Dad took my brother and me to watch our favorite teams play whoever our "then at home" teams were. If ever it should become possible, I would love to take my nephew to a DC game when his favorite Seattle Seahawks visit. However, nose bleed seats with nose bleed parking is way too expensive. DC needs to lose Mr. Jones for starters. I mean Jimmy Johnson gave him 2 superbowls and still Jerry is clueless how to really run a football team. Oh, and then the cost of everything needs to come way down. Let some other way be found to finance player salaries and the like. I don't watch NFL any more myself. In fact you could say it is my dislike of some things in the NFL that influence how I run my EF Solitaire league. I have all the NFL teams in my solitaire league, making it as large as possible to achieve the goals of having an even number of home and away games for each team and to complete a season in a calendar year. Collecting all the college teams would not allow me to do that. I've got better things to do than watch millionaires play games, the whiny babies. One player complained about his need for a 15 million salary and then ends up giving one of his worst seasons ever. That's just one example. I'm sorry, no athletes need to have drug habits supported and easier penalties when laws are broken. Whether they want it or not, professional athletes are role models and many NFL players in my opinion should be given stricter penalties for things because they are role models. Now everything here is my opinion so apologies for that but I'm really getting irritated. Let me calm down a bit take a look at the NFL league itself. I never liked OT rules. Even with first TD being a winner instead of first score, it still leaves a possible win being left to a coin toss. I've seen a kickoff returned for a touchdown and thus a win. The other team worked so hard to match their opponent's efforts to have the game just snuffed out from one lucky kick return. Each team should have at least a chance to win which is why my OT's require one drive per team. Then come NFL team schedules. There was a day when teams that did better had harder schedules and the lower teams had easier schedules. The teams that didn't do so well also were given 1st round draft picks but now they are bartered with other arrangements that I remember actually worked to try and balance things out for teams. I would not allow "performance privileges" to be altered. You don't do so well, you get 1st round opportunity to improve things, no changes, end of my story. But as Bluehen alluded to, money is one of the influences that spoiled all that for me. So how does all this relate to EF? There are too many college teams to create a desired league the way I want. My league is centered around what I consider the really good old days of the NFL so this may be the 1 time for being only semi sorry about what are my opinions. Apologies if there are probably lots of feathers that have been ruffled. The NFL teams make a perfect sized league for my EF Solitaire but in most things NFL for me now, as BB King sang, "The Thrill is Gone", so, instead of watching football, I play it, my way. Or, as I once said, My game, My rules, My weirdness 🙂 Blessings, Curt 🙂

Oh my goodness Bluehen, you have inspired many musings. This is going to take a while to compose. I create rough drafts in Notebook prior to copying them into forum. This is for clarity, keeping on topic as much as possible without rambling, and doing my best not to ruffle feathers. While making sure forum guidelines are followed, I may not be able to meet my other objectives. I'll be as clear as possible. I'll stay on topic and be as concise as possible. I may however ruffle the feathers of those who like what the NFL has grown into as like you, I'm not thrilled with the way some things are done, but this is going to take me a while [having been through 3 strokes, my thought processes are not the greatest, sorry] so it may actually be tomorrow before I have a "real" response for you. There is nothing to fear as again, I will definitely follow forum policies in posting comments [I'm not a rule-breaker 🙂 ], but you have inspired some of my more somewhat controversial thoughts which normally do not see the light of day but are way too much "fun" not to share. Blessings, Curt

Wow, nice pics remind me of the old, old, yearly feud. [ Here are some pics of the skins and their archrivals (sorry, we're still not allowed to say their names in our house 😜) ] As my wife's family heritage is full blooded Cherokee, there is no offense taken with the Redskin name. Every Thanksgiving, they would be here in Texas Stadium wearing their yellow pants. In the early 70's and the freezing cold that Turkey Day, [Now understand I don't like to see anyone get hurt.] the boys were trailing but semi-fortuitously for them, Roger Staubach got hurt and Clint "The Mad Bomber" Longley orchestrated one impressive comeback win. He got in trouble for giving home team fans what they wanted instead of following coach's directions. I think he was even dismissed over that, but it is what it is. I'm not the biggest DC fan, liking the Houston Texans myself. My two favorite teams however are in honor of my two favorite uncles. They are the San Francisco 49ers and also the Detroit Lions. Wouldn't it have been hilarious if it were the "Palefaces" hosting the "Redskins"? Still, being there felt like being part of history. Anyway, I ramble too much. Again, great pics, thanks for sharing them. Blessings to all, Curt. 🙂

I keep finding my way back to this post...awesome collection...to quote you coach DimeGuy...As a college guy, I’ve really been into collecting all the college teams and so with all the new teams coming out today, I decided I’ll show off what I’ve got so far. I ordered a few more teams today and will do my best to try to collect every team... I wish you good luck and God's speed on that. I once considered collecting all the college teams but it was too daunting a task. With the inclusion of the Houston Oilers, my solitaire league consists of them with the currently active NFL teams for a total of 33 and if you really want to get nitpicky, I have a silver and black fantasy team that I named after a local Dallas college although their real colors are green and yellow, big surprise. They do not have a football program, but the Richland Community College Thunder Ducks do quite well in other sports. I changed the name for my fantasy team [should a league to join pops up] to the Texas Thunder Ducks because the name is so awesome. 🙂 Assumedly, you are considering all the main university teams, but should you consider community colleges that have football programs, then I wish you even more luck with that. Blessings to all. 🙂 Curt

I agree with Bluehen, Touchdown with a 2-point after! Good to have you back. Welcome home! 🙂

You are welcome...The rest is understandable and also very kewl...kind of an afterthought...I wonder if Harlin was more intrigued by the players buzzing around the board than trying to understand and negotiate plays and strategies, but he certainly enjoyed the game. 🙂

Yes, Happy Birthday Bryan...!

Apologies for taking so long to respond to this one but I really wanted to do this one the justice it deserves. For those who know me, I pre-write a lot of my posts in Notebook first, to make them flow as smoothly as possible and second, to make them as clear as possible. A lot has run through my mind about this awesome post which I see has now been close to a month since it got published. Let me begin by quoting nefgm.org - "This is why i do what I do and the very purpose for which I created the National ELECTRIC FOOTBALL Game Museum. This is one of my wife's student's that she tutors. She specializes in working with kids who have dyslexia." and Coach Shawn "Awesome. It is great to see young people getting excited about Electric Football." Sir Chris, I once said and still believe today and always, if anyone could make EF famous or be famous because of their involvement with it, it would be you. A post from long ago told y'all how the 15-year-old son of a church friend and my oldest foster girl of 7 years both really enjoy the game. It is a great pleasure to now add to that, a border-line autistic 9-year-old boy, the son of one of my church choir members. Having learned he loves miniature toys, upon which I gave him the remainder of my model railroad sized cars that I found, and a wee bit reluctantly as I find I'm still protective of this one remaining and favorite hobby of mine, I told him to wait until he sees my EF collection. The rest they say is history. There have been a few kids that didn't have an interest in EF but now 3 game loving kids is a good number. 🙂 I remember a post from long ago about EF being an addiction of sorts. I don't know where these kids will end up, but I know this about myself. I've been playing this game for just over 50 years now. Being semi-retired [working only part time], and just like today, thoughts about EF occupy my day while working. Perusing the Tudor EF forums until the need to stop and go play at least a set of downs if not a full quarter or more when I get home, I think qualifies me for an EF addict if not just a crazy EF fanatic. Anyway, I'll quit rambling. I hope this made sense. Blessings to all, Curt 🙂

Sorry that happened. Isn't it scary to know a doctor's profession is called "practice"? Will keep praying until the "all-clear" is definitively and definitely confirmed. Blessings, Curt 🙂

Totally Awesome. What amazing Detail. Gives new light to the term catch a buzz? Anyone up for a beer? Nothing like a good joke and that was nothing like a good joke, but I couldn't resist it, sorry. Honestly it reminds me of the intense perfection my brother strives for when restoring motorcycles like Yamaha's pin-striping. I don't know how he does it but it takes a very long time and I'm sure you follow the same painstaking processes. Again, very fine work Chris. Blessings to all Curt. 🙂

All our loving prayers for a speedy recovery. Blessings. Coach Curt 🙂

I agree with Sir Daryl. Blessings, Curt 🙂

I’d really like to do a super expansion one of these seasons and go from 12 to 20 teams - It all depends on how you want your league to function and what time frame you have envisioned for your league. Let me demonstrate with my 33 teams. My criteria is to have an even number of home and away games for each team and to complete a season in a calendar year. 11 divisions of 3 [first started in alphabetical order] make its regimen. at the season's end, they are ranked 1-33 for the next season's division placement. I'll use my top division as my example and let you multiply each round by 11. 2 hosts 3, 3 hosts 1, 1 hosts 2, 3 hosts 2, 1 hosts 3, 2 hosts 1. 6 games per division x 11 divisions = 66 regular season games with each team playing 2 home and 2 away games. They then are reordered for the next season according to 1st by W-T-L record, then 2nd by total points scored, then 3rd by total points allowed. Only twice in 19 seasons have 2 teams tied in all 3 criteria and the tiebreaker came from the previous season's performance stats. Does that all make sense? On to the playoff structure. The wildcard [best of the second-place teams] visits the 11th place division winner. That winner visits the 4th place division winner. 10 visits 9 to whose winner gets to visit the 3rd place division winner. 8 visits 7 to visit 2 and 5 visits 4 to visit 1. They all then whittle themselves down to the Superbowl winner which totals 11 games. Season total then is 77 games per season. Completing them in a year is easily achieved by following a schedule of playing a quarter per day. There are a total of 26 two-week periods in a calendar year. If you play 3 games in a 2-week period, you come up with 78 opportunities to complete 77 games or as I like to figure it, begin your season New Year's week and Christmas makes for a delightful Superbowl. But then again, it all depends on how you want your league to function and what time frame you have envisioned for your league. Good luck. Blessings, Curt 🙂

I enjoyed this thread. I have all 33 of the professional teams. Thinking the number of desired college teams I'd want is a really scary big number. Plus, I'd probably find myself overly biased toward the Ohio State Buckeyes. Mom and Dad met there. Not that it matters but my grandfather was a drum major there or as I like to call him, the Grand Pooh-bah of the marching band. Wilbert Pettegrew: 1931 | The Ohio State University Marching and Athletic Bands (osu.edu) Blessings, Curt

Welcome to the family. I can tell you how wonderful these people are, but you will soon discover that on your own. Blessings, Curt. 🙂

Hi Greg, Yup, that was close. I agree with how you call your games because they are exactly that, your games. 🙂 I default to - if a call is too close to tell, the call goes to the benefit of the home team for a little bit of home field advantage. So that probably didn't help you much, sorry. 😞

Yeah, my Ultimate field has a wide sideline with a little bit of a lip on it, so I guess it was that lip that caused the bounce back. As always, I appreciate your input, thanks and have a blessed day. Curt

Necessity is the mother of invention, right? Well tonight saw me needing to add another small item to my home teams for home field advantage and as usual, I have to reason it out in Notebook 1st so it will make sense to you all. Let me begin with a couple of quotes. On 10/6/2023 at 2:03 AM, Daryl Collins said: "I’m to the point where whatever the NFL does doesn’t concern me whatsoever." and NEFGM.ORG said: "I watch very little NFL anymore." I used to watch football to influence my offense and defense formations and a few rules but not anymore. We don't get sports at home as we only stream very few channels. The only game I watch is when I go over to a friend's house to watch the Superbowl. As far as football goes, I have all the professional football teams which play each other as the previous season results determine. So why bother watching football when I can play football anytime [Amen?!!!] and usually do as a quarter per day is the usual regimen. EF Rocks! 🙂 Ok, so here is the other home team advantage I now include. If a home player is behind a home ball carrier but not touching, a passed lateral may be performed to keep the ball moving. If the ball hits the available player, that player runs until tackled, out of bounds, or scores. In this case, the ball hit the side of the board and bounced back into the field of play without touching anyone. Were it the visiting team on offense, the ball would have been marked at the point it went out of bounds. However, since it rolled and stopped in the field of play [and as before I would have pivoted players to race to the ball which would have caused an additional loss of 6 yards for the home team], I have now decided that whatever point would give the home team the best advantage is where the next play will commence. Does this make sense? Blessings, Curt. 🙂