That is really interesting, ITZ base supporters and the makers themselves trash Tudor bases, say their bases are the only bases that are competitive in tournaments. Yet I am slowly finding out the silent majority doesn't agree...most say ITZ bases need a lot of timw tweaking and setting up properly in order to get any performance out of them. I agree they are over priced, made in china yet marked up way way more than they should be. For overall bang for your buck as well as good performance, I agree stick with Tudor proline strong bases, they out perform ITZ bases.