Miggle Era Rookie Single Clip Rookie Bases (approx 2003-2010)

[wht]

I am looking to purchase "Miggle Era" Single Clip Rookie Bases.

They came in clear plastic bags of 22 each.  There are little numbers between the prongs on the underside of the base. The bases of greatest interest to me are numbers 23, 24, 4, with a second priority 17, 18, 5 and 6.  They should not be excessively "pulled" or "cut".

Thank you. W

 

[nefgm.org]

Go to tudorgames.com. Tudor still sells them. 

Rookie Bases - Bases (tudorgames.com)

[wht]

3 hours ago, nefgm.org said:

Go to tudorgames.com. Tudor still sells them. 

Rookie Bases - Bases (tudorgames.com)

Thanks - but these are double clip... I am looking for Single Clip Rookie Bases (Miggle Era).

[Terry43]

Hi Coach wht.

Do you have pictures of the Miggle-era single clips? I've never seen them. Or, perhaps, I have seen them and mistakenly thought they were late 1960s, 1970s Tudor-Era single clips. Here are pictures of the single-clip bases that play in my league.

 

There is a visible difference that the two single clips are from different molds and probably different eras. Here is the top and bottom of alleged Hog Leg-era bases.

Note the circles on the top and the number front and center on the bottom. 

Here is the top and bottom of alleged Chicken Leg-era bases.

Note there is no distinguishing features on the top of the base and the number is larger and centered at the back of the base.

As near as I can discover Tudor started manufacturing Single-clips around 1965 and did so until 1973~74 and the introduction of TTC Bases.

The Aqua Single Clips have the same circular marks as the bases designated Hog Leg-era so I will venture they came either before, or after, or during the manufacture of the alleged Hog Leg players. This would make them made in Hong Kong Bases.

The alleged Chicken Leg-era bases have the same distinguishing characteristics as the Red Peg bases so I will venture they were manufactured about the same time and that would make them made in Haiti, or made in China bases.

Finally the Aqua bases are chemically unstable. All Aqua bases have an oxidation residue that wipes away.

The 1967 model 620 featured Aqua single-clip bases. I know this for certain because I have two model 620s. The plastic may be unstable but My God are they fast.

How do the Miggle-era single-clips compare to the Aqua singe-clips?

Enjoy the Journey   T43    ⚡🏈♾️

[Daryl Collins]

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[wht]

The bases I use were bought when Miggle owned the company, and their warehouse was in the Chicago area.  (Margie was the warehouse manager for many years. )

They did not have a circle underneath, and the numbers were always consistent in each bag of 22.  The numbers 23 and 24, 4, 18, 17, 16, 5, 6, and 10, 11, 12 had broader prongs for linemen.  

As mentioned, they were the only Single Clips available, at least between 2003 and 2010.

The picture shows the Miggle base on the bottom compared to a modern Tudor base on the top.

Thanks to all for your help in finding these.

[Terry43]

Thank you. I'll watch eBay and let you know if I see them.

1 hour ago, wht said:

The numbers 23 and 24, 4, 18, 17, 16, 5, 6, and 10, 11, 12 had broader prongs for linemen.

Live and learn. 😃👍

I see the Miggle single-clips have a punch out for the red peg TTC. This is an excellent discovery!

Enjoy the Journey.  T43.   ⚡🏈♾️

[nefgm.org]

So you are wanting ProLine Single Clips. 

https://tudorgames.com/bases/pro-line-bases.html

https://tudorgames.com/pro-line-single-clip-fast-rookie-straight-front-bases-12-pack.html

[Terry43]

Pro Line Single Clip STRONG Rookie Straight Front Bases - 12 Pack

These look the same. 😃👍 Once again the National Electric Football Game Museum has all the right answers.

Enjoy the Journey.   T43.   ⚡🏈♾️

[nefgm.org]

Sorry for the confusion. I did find on the Plugged In!! order form that you could order bags of 22 Classic Rookie Bases (Single Clip Bases).

[wht]

Where do you find the order form for the Classic Single Clip Rookie Bases?

The picture shows the difference between the current "Pro Line" base (on the top) and the base from Miggle era that suits my purpose (on the bottom). 

[zak99b5]

Are you sure those single clip bases were produced by Miggle?  Or maybe they were NOS that Miggle acquired when they bought Tudor Games?  The only new single clip bases I remember from the Miggle era were the ones George Diamond made.  And Miggle figures didn't typically have the hole in the middle even to use single clip bases.  But my knowledge is far from exhaustive.

[nefgm.org]

2 hours ago, zak99b5 said:

Are you sure those single clip bases were produced by Miggle?  Or maybe they were NOS that Miggle acquired when they bought Tudor Games? 

That is highly possible. but the fact that it was approximately 10 years after Miggle bought Tudor out of bankruptcy makes me think that they were produced by Miggle.

[Terry43]

The mold is the thing.

If Miggle contracted with an Asian company for a new single clip mold then the proposed Miggle-era single clips would have some kind of differentiating feature. The font of the number, or placement of the number on the bottom.

If the original Tudor company had molds from a non-Asian company (Canadian perhaps) and those molds were sold to Superior and then purchased by Miggle, then there would be no difference between the Tudor-era single clips and the Miggle-era single clips. There does seem to be a difference, but was it intentional?

That difference is that specific numbers ("...23 and 24, 4, 18, 17, 16, 5, 6, and 10, 11, 12 had broader prongs for linemen") had broader prongs. The erratic numbering of the broader prongs seems more like a happy accident, rather than a planned mold design.

Old molds — say 10 to 15 years old — tend to produce more flashing. Is it possible that the broader prongs are broader because of excessive flashing?

Could we see pictures of the broader-prong single clips?

Enjoy the Journey.    T43.    ⚡🏈♾️

[wht]

Very thankful for everyone's input. See the photo attached. On the left is base #24 which has thinner prongs and is faster. In the center is base #10 which has wider prongs, is slower and stronger. On the far right is a much older base (prior to 2003) that is darker green but has exactly the same numbering scheme as I have mentioned above. In every bag of 22 the numbers were mixed, usually there were 5 or 6 of the faster bases.  The bases numbered "4" were the most versatile.  (The one on the left only appears bigger in the photo because the clip remains on it: they are all exactly the same size.)

[wht]

Please keep your eyes and ears open for anyone who might have the Rookie Single Clip bases from the period of 2000 - 2010.

Appreciate it.

W

[GreenBayGlenn]

Didn't Miggle only produce the figures with the solid square base on them and no holes? I don't think Miggle ever made players with holes in their stand, did they? Ergo, only double clips would ever work with them. 

[nefgm.org]

18 hours ago, GreenBayGlenn said:

Didn't Miggle only produce the figures with the solid square base on them and no holes? I don't think Miggle ever made players with holes in their stand, did they? Ergo, only double clips would ever work with them. 

Miggle did produce the unpainted and pre-painted '67 Big Men reproductions with the hole for single clip bases and did reproduce a single clip base. 

[GreenBayGlenn]

Yes they sure did! Thanks for standing me up corrected, Chris! 🤐😉